Defensive stalemates vs defensive wins consensus
4 days ago
VAELINN
844 Total Respect
VAELINN
844 Respect
4 days ago
Should a defensive stalemate count as a win for the defender?
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4 days ago
BARUNAVA
23 Total Respect
BARUNAVA
23 Respect
4 days ago
Yes because defending means saving yourself. If you manage to get yourself out of hospital then the purpose is complete.
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4 days ago
JACE420
1 Total Respect
JACE420
1 Respect
4 days ago
Me personally as a only stat agility build will like this to be added because well I dont attack often when people attack me they draw alot so I would like to see this implemented
4 days ago
KWYY
534 Total Respect
KWYY
534 Respect
4 days ago
I'll abstain from voting on this one due to the fact my build breaks this to a pretty huge degree when it comes to getting defends etc.
A win should be a win (the attacker loses from running out of health). A loss should be a loss (the defender loses due to running out of health).
As much as I'd love those extra stats - just no.
Last Edited 24/09/2026, 18:09:48
4 days ago
SHREDDERCHU
213 Total Respect
SHREDDERCHU
213 Respect
4 days ago
I voted yes, but I'm on the fence with this one, it's a draw and it's a successful defend, but I'm unsure whether I'd consider it as a win, I'd probably prefer it being considered as a defender getting a stalemate, with an achievement for stalemates as well as defends, and dogs getting half the exp when the defender gets a stalemate compared to a defend. But there were no 3rd option
3 days ago
SCOTIA
22 Total Respect
SCOTIA
22 Respect
3 days ago
I'll reiterate my logic in my last post about this -
If, in real life, someone attacks me and I am able to escape, I would count that as a win, and I doubt anyone who has actually been in a fight would disagree.
In short, yes, I think defensive stalemates should be counted as a win, for the defender.
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3 days ago
JARI
413 Total Respect
JARI
413 Respect
3 days ago
My opinion is yes. It should count as a win/defend.
Like everyone else said, if I can escape without dying I would consider it a win.
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3 days ago
BOONIESTEEP
294 Total Respect
BOONIESTEEP
294 Respect
3 days ago
I voted yes, but I'm on the fence with this one, it's a draw and it's a successful defend, but I'm unsure whether I'd consider it as a win, I'd probably prefer it being considered as a defender getting a stalemate, with an achievement for stalemates as well as defends, and dogs getting half the exp when the defender gets a stalemate compared to a defend. But there were no 3rd option
SHREDDERCHU - 24/09/2026, 18:16:23
Agree with this
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3 days ago
RENO_CHALAMET
52 Total Respect
RENO_CHALAMET
52 Respect
3 days ago
I voted no because a draw is a draw. I think achievement points is not such a bad idea though for draws
A couple of people have raised the idea that a defensive stalemate should actually be counted as a win for the defender (for achievements and dog experience considerations) and my initial feeling was that a defensive win should be a fight where the defender put the attacker in the hospital.
But I wanted to raise this to the community and see if that is the community consensus as well, or if defensive stalemates should indeed count as a "win" for the purposes of achievements and dog experience gains.
So I am putting this poll together to get community input on the topic.
To be sure we are all on the same page as far as what a defensive stalemate is, I am referring to an attack where the initiator was not able to put the defender in the hospital and the defender was not able to put the attacker in the hospital.