Church feedback
Should church donations be cash only?
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about 9 hours ago
EPICM
13 Total Respect
EPICM
13 Respect
about 9 hours ago
A couple of options that are coming to mind to me to address this so far. Throwing these to get feedback.
Repriced items
Cash and items both stay. Shop-bought items would be credited at what the town shop actually charges, not the inflated market price, so buying from a shop and donating is no longer a profit. Enhancement mats would be priced so scrapping a shop weapon or armour and donating the mats is worth about the same as donating the item itself — scrap stays for R&D, not for printing church credit. Item donations would then count at 80% of that fair value, while cash stays 1:1, so cash is slightly more efficient but leftover loot and mats are still worth dumping.Mix rule
Cash and items both stay, but a fundraiser cannot be finished with items alone. At least half the goal(maybe more, maybe less?) must come from cash; items can fill the rest. You can still dump loot and mats, but one scrap loop cannot solo a boost.Per-player item cap
VAELINN - 18/09/2026, 21:52:50
Cash and items both stay, but each player can only put a limited amount of item credit into a given fundraiser (around 10–15% of the goal). Cash has no extra cap. Items remain a sink; one person cannot fill the bar with mats.
How will mixed rule work? Cuz what if someone fill less than half the cd with items leaving rest with cash to donate?
Maybe have it so that one can add items similar in value to the amount they are donating in cash. So you donate 1mil and that lets you donate 1mil worth or less in items.
about 8 hours ago
VAELINN
777 Total Respect
VAELINN
777 Respect
about 8 hours ago
A couple of options that are coming to mind to me to address this so far. Throwing these to get feedback.
Repriced items
Cash and items both stay. Shop-bought items would be credited at what the town shop actually charges, not the inflated market price, so buying from a shop and donating is no longer a profit. Enhancement mats would be priced so scrapping a shop weapon or armour and donating the mats is worth about the same as donating the item itself — scrap stays for R&D, not for printing church credit. Item donations would then count at 80% of that fair value, while cash stays 1:1, so cash is slightly more efficient but leftover loot and mats are still worth dumping.Mix rule
Cash and items both stay, but a fundraiser cannot be finished with items alone. At least half the goal(maybe more, maybe less?) must come from cash; items can fill the rest. You can still dump loot and mats, but one scrap loop cannot solo a boost.Per-player item cap
VAELINN - 18/09/2026, 21:52:50
Cash and items both stay, but each player can only put a limited amount of item credit into a given fundraiser (around 10–15% of the goal). Cash has no extra cap. Items remain a sink; one person cannot fill the bar with mats.How will mixed rule work? Cuz what if someone fill less than half the cd with items leaving rest with cash to donate?
Maybe have it so that one can add items similar in value to the amount they are donating in cash. So you donate 1mil and that lets you donate 1mil worth or less in items.
EPICM - 18/09/2026, 22:03:43
The way I see the mix rule working is that for a 10b fundraiser only up to 5b could be donated from item value, the rest would have to come from cash.
It could be potentially paired with the per player cap if we wanted to ensure that everyone has a chance to donate some items, but that would likely not scale well long term (with many players in the future donating).
about 8 hours ago
SOMBRA_NEGRA
86 Total Respect
SOMBRA_NEGRA
86 Respect
about 8 hours ago
Not everything should be left up for agreeance imo, if you see something is broken as a developer, it should be pitched to diablo and bam hotfix. Especially when the sysm price ranges require a balanace. For example spend 12.5m and get 81m worth in turn in items....shouldnt even be a question.
about 8 hours ago
EPICM
13 Total Respect
EPICM
13 Respect
about 8 hours ago
Not everything should be left up for agreeance imo, if you see something is broken as a developer, it should be pitched to diablo and bam hotfix. Especially when the sysm price ranges require a balanace. For example spend 12.5m and get 81m worth in turn in items....shouldnt even be a question.
SOMBRA_NEGRA - 18/09/2026, 22:55:31
Mg34 gives 2 blacksite...1 Syndicate and 19 street. Church value of these items are 6.1mil ish. Chet mass scrapped which for some reason gives out less. It should be 25 x 6.1mil =152mil. A 12x return
about 7 hours ago
DAS_DADDY
170 Total Respect
DAS_DADDY
170 Respect
about 7 hours ago
Not everything should be left up for agreeance imo, if you see something is broken as a developer, it should be pitched to diablo and bam hotfix. Especially when the sysm price ranges require a balanace. For example spend 12.5m and get 81m worth in turn in items....shouldnt even be a question.
SOMBRA_NEGRA - 18/09/2026, 22:55:31Mg34 gives 2 blacksite...1 Syndicate and 19 street. Church value of these items are 6.1mil ish. Chet mass scrapped which for some reason gives out less. It should be 25 x 6.1mil =152mil. A 12x return
EPICM - 18/09/2026, 23:21:30
Its based on your engineering uni. Mine is max so I get 3 blacksite and 2 street.
First MVP
You ranked #1 in ticket contribution for the Arana Territory Bounty.
17:31:15 04/08/2026
about 5 hours ago
CASPER777
20 Total Respect
CASPER777
20 Respect
about 5 hours ago
Well to be fair, it should be either option 1 (full cash) or option 3 (player with cap)
Recent update changed the amount needed for the events.
I believe that we should go to previous amounts so the event can be filled every week
about 3 hours ago
VAELINN
777 Total Respect
VAELINN
777 Respect
about 3 hours ago
I am at least for now disabling enhancement donations from the church while deliberating the final outcome.
about 3 hours ago
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-25 Total Respect
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-25 Respect
about 3 hours ago
It took me 2 hours of spending 84m to maks 932m Worth donation value.
Imagine how broken it was lol
Even if I only sell the blakcsite I got.
Id make 215m profit.
Its not only the church donation.
The scrap need to be fixed.
Like I can sell one item at 3x after scrapping it
Thats that easy many have gotten 10b donations quickly even I did 1.25b after knowing this mg34 Update. 932 is after that.
Its just the most broken way we have open for everyone to be fixed
Last Edited 19/09/2026, 04:45:09
Done
about 2 hours ago
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
-25 Total Respect
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-25 Respect
about 2 hours ago
Also we do no need compelte removal of itms. Its not the solutionm
The rates and items which are not related must be removed from donation.
Esp enchament.
They are for enhancement mostly must be used in R D
And enhanement could be option to donate too. Just getting 3m worth stuff from scrap of 500k is just joke
Probable best item to donate is stuff from exped.
Which we keep idle from cold exp market why not better we donate.
Last Edited 19/09/2026, 04:49:16
Done
about 9 hours ago
DAS_DADDY
170 Total Respect
DAS_DADDY
170 Respect
about 9 hours ago
Combination of Mix Rule and Per-Player Item cap if we have to.
First MVP
You ranked #1 in ticket contribution for the Arana Territory Bounty.
17:31:15 04/08/2026